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What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

Last post 07-02-2008, 5:39 AM by AKalel. 53 replies.
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  •  06-23-2008, 10:56 PM Permalinks: 357364 in reply to 357363

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    You should always mark spoilers for old shows that no one probably ever intends on airing around here.
    Il Duce and der Furher couldn't be obscurer on the planet Mongo or the Melody Ranch.


  •  06-23-2008, 11:04 PM Permalinks: 357366 in reply to 357364

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Are there any old shows that they don't intend on airing here?

    I hear there's a series called Relic Hunter out there somewhere. They might want to find that one.


  •  06-23-2008, 11:10 PM Permalinks: 357367 in reply to 357366

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Doctor Who springs to mind, as does Space: 1999 and the aforementioned show which is seen as a subset of Doctor Who.
    Il Duce and der Furher couldn't be obscurer on the planet Mongo or the Melody Ranch.


  •  06-24-2008, 6:31 AM Permalinks: 357385 in reply to 357363

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Rustydogz:
    DBash:
     

    Really? What was the show and how long ago did this happen?

    Blake's Seven.  Last year or early this year.  I mentioned something that happened in season two.  Technically it was a major spoiler, but a thirty-year old spoiler.  So now I am like Sargent Schultz (from another old-timey tv show).

    Well, if that's the case, I'm surprised someone hasn't taken the time to label the entire BSG forum as one big spoiler. There are so many there, you wouldn't be able to open a thread without exposure to one. Your example just attests to the subjectivity of spoilers and, as either TheVok or AKalel pointed out elsewhere, there is no statute of limitations on them - which is kind of silly, isn't it?

    As WHO said in another thread, there are people who get upset when spoilers from Star Trek: TOS are posted without warning. Makes you wonder about the sanity of the whole topic, doesn't it?

    If you're (not you personally, Rusty, just in general) going to be out in the real world, chances are someone is discussing something you may not want to hear. Suck it up and deal with it like an adult.


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  •  06-25-2008, 4:03 AM Permalinks: 357502 in reply to 357385

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    First I want to say for some shows I am ok with spoilers and some I am not.  Also part of the reason I do not think there can be a set period of time given before spoilers can be put in place is because in some cases there is so many different ways people watch there shows.  Not everyone watches or sees tv the sameway.  On a side note I know sometimes when I post a thread in a forum for a show it does not always reflect a episode it can be about anything so if a person read one of those they would not risk accidently reading something that might contain a spoiler.  All I am saying is unless you are the original poster how will you not know a thread is going to be discussing something that might contain a possible spoiler or important ingredient to the show or movie if there is no spoiler warning in the thread title, a episode title or air date or show name as the title of the thread or even spoiler space before a possible is revealed.  Like I mentioned in the other thread I think if one or more of these were utilized the chance of someone jumping down your throat would be either non existant or very small. 


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  •  06-25-2008, 7:25 AM Permalinks: 357509 in reply to 357502

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    AKalel:
    All I am saying is unless you are the original poster how will you not know a thread is going to be discussing something that might contain a possible spoiler or important ingredient to the show or movie if there is no spoiler warning in the thread title, a episode title or air date or show name as the title of the thread or even spoiler space before a possible is revealed.

    I'm not sure what you're saying here. The original post'er in a thread has no control over what other people post in that thread.

    I don't think a thread needs to be named with a spoiler warning ... I just don't think threads should be named with actual spoilers.


  •  06-25-2008, 8:45 AM Permalinks: 357516 in reply to 357502

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    AKalel:

    First I want to say for some shows I am ok with spoilers and some I am not.  Also part of the reason I do not think there can be a set period of time given before spoilers can be put in place is because in some cases there is so many different ways people watch there shows.  Not everyone watches or sees tv the sameway.  On a side note I know sometimes when I post a thread in a forum for a show it does not always reflect a episode it can be about anything so if a person read one of those they would not risk accidently reading something that might contain a spoiler.  All I am saying is unless you are the original poster how will you not know a thread is going to be discussing something that might contain a possible spoiler or important ingredient to the show or movie if there is no spoiler warning in the thread title, a episode title or air date or show name as the title of the thread or even spoiler space before a possible is revealed.  Like I mentioned in the other thread I think if one or more of these were utilized the chance of someone jumping down your throat would be either non existant or very small.

    All I'm saying is that all threads in all areas of this forum should be considered potential spoiler material because, to someone, they are. What I don't consider a spoiler, you might. If I openly start talking about who directed an episode of Stargate: Atlantis and you didn't want to know that, then I've spoiled it for you if you consider such info a spoiler.

    I would agree with anyone that revealing the end of a movie while it's still in its original theatre run is a spoiler and you might want to warn people if you're going to talk about it. A TV show is a different matter entirely - to me.

    What about the hundreds of thousands - or millions - of people who have seen a show and want to openly discuss it? The majority of people still do watch TV the normal way... why should they have to stifle the conversation on the off-chance that one fan hasn't seen the show (or is waiting for the season to be released on DVD), went on a forum and read the episode's details? If you're that big a fan of a show that a spoiler would bother you, why would you go to a fan forum where the episodes are being discussed in the first place?


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  •  06-25-2008, 8:55 AM Permalinks: 357517 in reply to 357509

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    TheVok:
    AKalel:
    All I am saying is unless you are the original poster how will you not know a thread is going to be discussing something that might contain a possible spoiler or important ingredient to the show or movie if there is no spoiler warning in the thread title, a episode title or air date or show name as the title of the thread or even spoiler space before a possible is revealed.

    I'm not sure what you're saying here. The original post'er in a thread has no control over what other people post in that thread.

    AKalel, you've been coming here a lot longer than I have. You should know that no one has control over what someone else posts here... unless the mods deem something offensive, we're all pretty much free to fight like children if we want to... Stick out tongue Wink


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  •  06-25-2008, 12:00 PM Permalinks: 357537 in reply to 357516

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    DBash:
    All I'm saying is that all threads in all areas of this forum should be considered potential spoiler material because, to someone, they are.

    Of course. But it would be nice if thread titles didn't give away major plot points (which is what started all this discussion in the first place).


  •  06-25-2008, 12:47 PM Permalinks: 357538 in reply to 357537

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Amusingly enough, the forum's self-appointed spoiler cop posted an unlabeled SG Atlantis spoiler in another thread ....

    http://forums.spacecast.com/forums/thread/355403.aspx

    Practice what you preach, AKalel. Or preferably, just quit preaching.


  •  06-25-2008, 1:15 PM Permalinks: 357550 in reply to 357537

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    TheVok:

    DBash:
    All I'm saying is that all threads in all areas of this forum should be considered potential spoiler material because, to someone, they are.

    Of course. But it would be nice if thread titles didn't give away major plot points (which is what started all this discussion in the first place).

    Yes, it would be nice... but it would also be nice if I won $1,000,000.00.

    I'll go back to one of my original issues... I don't believe a plot event phrased in the form of a question is a spoiler. I've seen countless thread titles on other forums or websites asking questions and no one makes a big deal out of it. It's like "Bruce Banner dies at the end of 'The Incredible Hulk' (movie)?" (I don't know, I haven't seen it.) Someone who reads the statement as a thread title might surmise that he does, but someone else might not and assume that the character's fate is unresolved. Or, on a Battlestar Galactica theme since this is where the discussion originated, someone could type "Admiral Adama is the Final Cylon?". Does this mean to someone who sees the title only that the character has been revealed or that the person who started the thread is asking others' opinions?

    We could argue about the finer points of what constitutes a spoiler all day, but the bottom line is it's open to interpretation... individual interpretation. You could conceivably read the same sentence I do and, depending on how it's worded, draw a different conclusion.

    What I think should be done is there should be a general disclaimer on the forum's main page saying, "Here there be dragons! Enter of your own free will. People who choose not to turn back now may be exposed to spoilers. If you read something that you don't want to know, don't go crying about it to the site's owners or other members. Have a whine-free day and shaddupaboutit. Peace out!" Wink


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  •  06-25-2008, 1:19 PM Permalinks: 357552 in reply to 357538

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Naomi.:

    Amusingly enough, the forum's self-appointed spoiler cop posted an unlabeled SG Atlantis spoiler in another thread ....

    http://forums.spacecast.com/forums/thread/355403.aspx

    Practice what you preach, AKalel. Or preferably, just quit preaching.

    Naomi, I don't think you read AKalel's post above quite closely enough:

    AKalel:
    First I want to say for some shows I am ok with spoilers and some I am not.


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  •  06-25-2008, 1:32 PM Permalinks: 357554 in reply to 357336

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    Marc..:

    Your suggestion, Gregg, is like giving a full box of the best chocolate to Spotthecat and telling her not to open that box and more important, not to taste even one peace.Embarrassed 

    As long as Spotthecat gets the chocolate in the end... Devil
     


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  •  06-25-2008, 4:01 PM Permalinks: 357566 in reply to 357552

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    I am with Vok. Subject heading should be spoiler free. Inside is a different story. As for someones concern about Old Shows. Yes, you think it may be a spoiler, attach a warning or hide it. There are tons of SF shows that may not have been see by users of the board. It's not like a warning costs any coin.

    As with the potention Subjects someone else posted

    Admiral Adama, the Final Cylon. could be a potential Spoiler. It could be changed to, Thoughts on the Final Cylon

  •  06-25-2008, 5:11 PM Permalinks: 357576 in reply to 357566

    Re: What's Your Opinion on Spoilers?

    ogi8745:
    As with the potention Subjects someone else posted

    Admiral Adama, the Final Cylon. could be a potential Spoiler. It could be changed to, Thoughts on the Final Cylon

    You do realize that what you typed could be taken as a spoiler too, don't you? I'm sure someone who hasn't watched Season 3 yet would hop on here and cry that s/he didn't want to know that all Cylons but one have been revealed by the middle (or end, depending on who you talk to) of Season 4.

    You can't win because you every post you type could be a spoiler to someone. Only the most generic thread titles would be acceptable: "The Galactica - What a big spaceship, eh?", "Better than the '78 version!" or "Why isn't Lorne Greene in this?" (oops! sorry to those who haven't seen the mini-series yet and won't for 30 years.)

    ....................

    I'd like to take the opportunity as well to explain why I'm here so frequently. I love coming here and talking with other forum members about events that happen on the shows that SPACE airs - well, the few that I DO watch. I love reading people's theories on why certain things happened and finding out info about upcoming shows that I may not have been aware of or stuff I overlooked previously. (Also, I'm off this week and missed my plane to Fiji. Wink)

    I've also been noticing that people write things in their posts sometimes that is common knowledge to others who have seen an episode in question. (Imagine that!) Sometimes people include spoiler warnings, sometimes they don't. Sometimes the person who writes something that could be a spoiler gets a "friendly reminder" about what they've written... sometimes they don't. Hmm

    So those forum members who come here and like to "remind" others about the content of their posts have had a negative effect on my wanting to participate in discussions about the shows I like as much as I'd like to. It's put a bad taste in my mouth, to be honest. Ick! As a result, any threads that I've started have included the words "Spoiler Alert" or "Spoiler Warning" whether I write anything revealing or important about a show or not. I mean, you don't know if the next person who replies will post a spoiler or not and I can't stand seeing those "Maybe you should have put Spoiler Alert in your title" posts. Angry

    They just seem to come from a few select people here, who shall remain nameless, and as you can see from this thread so far, we all have slightly differing opinions on what the protocol should be. I disagree with people being told that what they have posted in one thread or forum area is a spoiler while in other threads, spoilers run rampant and nothing is said. Surprise It seems to me the solution would be that every post should contain "Spoiler Warning"... or none of them should and you take your chances. Yes

    And I'll reiterate: I don't understand what gives person "A" the right to tell person "B" that they've posted a spoiler in the first place when the forum exists to discuss a particular show and the events within it. What gives person "A" the right to decide if the information even is a spoiler or not? What do you think is being discussed in the show forums, the current strength of the Loonie vs the American dollar? Huh? If I think something posted is a spoiler, I'll just stop reading the second I see it and go somewhere else. Idea How much information can you take in in the two seconds it takes to realize you're reading something you don't want to know & navigate away from that page? Confused


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