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I thought Space just made a big mistake by showing episode 1 of season 3 instead of episode 1 of season 2, but some people seem to think that Space has decided to skip season 2. I don't understand that and I sent an email to Space:

You guys just skipped an entire season of Stargate Atlantis!! Sunday Jan. 13, you aired "The Seige: Part 2" - episode 20 of season 1. Yesterday, Sunday Jan. 20, you should have aired “The Seige: Part 3” - episode 1 of season 2. Instead you aired “No Man's Land” - episode 1 of season 3! I thought this was a mistake, but in the forum, someone has posted that you have decided to skip season 2. Is that true? I didn't watch Atlantis when it was a new series. I've been watching it on Space so I've only seen season 1. If you skip season 2, I don't think I will continue to watch. It will be totally confusing. I won't know what happened after the season 1 cliffhanger. I won't know what's going on and I won't know any of the new characters. I don't see how it benefits Space to skip season 2. You're going to have a lot of angry viewers if you do this and many of them might stop watching the show.
 

How is it a good business decision to skip season 2?? They're only pi$$ing people off by doing this. Feel free to post your disappointment here and send your own email. Maybe if enough people post here and send emails, we'll get their attention. Maybe we can get them to reconsider. I'm serious about not watching it. I'd be totally lost. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I'd probably wait for them to show the series again.

I agree with you 100% I hadn't seen any of SGA but started watching when space aired season 1 from the beggining and I was really getting into it but if they skip a whole season I have no intention of watching season 3 without knowing what happend in season 2 so they will just lose another viewer..howeve I'm sure they don't care since they seem to have VERY little interest in what thier viewers actually want to see.

I agree with you and other viewers. The first time around, I couldn't watch Stargate Atlantis. But then, since they decided last fall to show Season 1 all over again, I could finally listen to it (even though I think Sunday night is a bad night to show SGA).

Last night I was sure that I'd see the rest of the 2 other episodes of Season 1. But I knew something was wrong when there were 2 new characters, McKay was prisonner on a Wraith Ship with a new character I didn't even know. How they got there, I have no clue. And it goes on and on all through the entire episode. I finally decided to see the list of episodes and that's when I saw they just skipped Season 2 entirely, and the hell with the new viewers.

Space is the only channel on which I can watch Stargate Atlantis, what's the matter with you at program scheduling. Do you think this is good viewer (customer) relations. I want to see Season 2 right now, not next Summer.

Space has always done what they want, period.  They just don't care about their viewers. We could never see Season 2 of War of the Worlds again. Then, they never showed Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, don't know why because it's an excellent program. And some others that I don't remember.

Oh, how I wish I could watch sci-fi programs on another channel, I'd drop Space so fast.  I just don't get it !!!!! 

Hello again,

I also sent an email to SPACE with a copy  to ctvglobemediacommunications@ctvglobemedia.com which now owns the SPACE channel. 

Let's hope that this way we'll have better results than with the SPACE channel alone.

Crossing fingers !!!!!

Space responded to my original email with the following:

 "Unfortunately it was decided that season three of Stargate Atlantis was going to be aired rather then season two as it was decided that it is a newer season, however, season two is set to air sometime during the Summer season"

 I responded to their ridiculous response with the following:

 "That's a ridiculous reason. You're airing season 3 because it's newer. That's not even a complete reason because newer is not necessarily better. My parents, for example, rent mainly movies from the 50's, 60's and 70's when they go to the video store. So for them older is better. Assuming that programming and scheduling decisions are made with the interests of the viewers in mind, I assume that Space has decided to show season 3 instead of season 2 because you think that's what current  viewers want and / or you think it will bring in more viewers. You're wrong. You might end up with different viewers but not more.


There might be some people who have seen seasons 1 – 3 and think season 3 is better than season 2. Some of them might be current viewers and are eager to see season 3 again, but I doubt season 2 was so bad that they don't want to see it. Others who were not watching season 1, might decide to watch now simply because you're showing season 3. However, what about the rest of us? What about those of us who didn't see seasons 1, 2, and 3 when they were new and have only just finished watching season 1 for the first time? You expect us to watch season 3 without having seen season 2? Season 1 ends with a cliffhanger. Season 3 starts in the middle of a plot-line. Those of us who haven't seen season 2 don't have a clue what's going on: new characters, plot-lines, sub-plots, ships, weapons, etc.


There's no way I'm watching season 3 without having seen season 2. I won't be able to enjoy it. One of your reps on the forum keeps posting that season 2 was shown “a while back”. That may be, but it doesn't help me. I didn't see season 2 then, because I hadn't seen season 1. I didn't want to start in the middle. I expected the whole series to be repeated eventually so I decided to wait. I was very happy when I saw you were showing SGA from the beginning. As I told your rep on the forum, if you weren't willing to show season 2, you should not have shown season 1. You never did this with SG-1. You showed seasons 1 -5 over and over until more seasons were available. You then showed each new season as it became available and never skipped any seasons.


I think your decision to skip season 2 will cause you to lose many current viewers, starting with myself. Now that I know Space is capable of such stupidity, it will affect my viewing decisions. I don't want to watch an entire season of a syndicated series, only to learn that you've decided to skip the next season. For example, “The X-Files” is a series I would like to see again because I didn't understand it very well the first time. I missed many episodes including the entire final season. If Space decides to air “The X-Files”, I won't be watching it because I know now that I can't trust you. You might air season 1 and then skip season 2, or you might air seasons 1 – 4 and then skip season 5 because season 6 is “newer”. I also want to see “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” again. DS9 was one of my favorite shows, but I won't watch it on Space because I don't trust you. I don't want to watch season 1 and then learn you've decided to skip season 2. I would rather wait for it to appear on another station.


You said in your reply that season 2 will be aired in the summer. That might be too long for me to wait. Do you guys understand the concept of momentum as it pertains to a tv show? Season 1 was great and ended with a cliffhanger. Right now, the show has momentum – at least for those of us watching it for the first time. That means people want to see what happens next. If you don't show season 2 until the summer, people will lose interest. You have to make use of the momentum while you've got it. You're killing the momentum by skipping season 2 and jumping to season 3.


If Space is on a mission to piss off its viewers, I would say the mission has been a complete success. That's definitely true for me, and I believe it's true for other people too.


I looked forward to SGA every Sunday evening. I will now find something else to do."

 

That's the email I sent. Some idiots keep posting that season 2 has already aired on Space. How does that help those of us who haven't seen it? "Season 2 aired a while ago", "They're not skipping a season. They're just not repeating a season." People who think like this should apply for jobs at Space. You guys would fit right in. More brainless people to work for a brainless company.

Okay, I know where you and other viewers like you are coming from, but really, the viewers who watched season 2 when it originally aired on Space (and please, don't call people who have enlightened you to the fact that season 2 was shown already "idiots" - surely they're only relaying the information they know to be true. They're not out to get you) have already waited over a year for season 3. Why should those viewers be forced to wait even longer just to satisfy the minority of Space viewers who haven't seen season 2 through some medium, be it Space's original broadcast, downloading, watching it on YouTube, or through the purchase of season 2 DVDs?

In Space's response to you, they didn't say - as far as I could see - that they were showing season 3 because "newer is better" - they've waited patiently for the rights to run season 3 and they deserve to show it. More power to them.

Not to sound heartless, but if you think the momentum from season 1 is going to run out for you, explore the other means of seeing season 2. The rest of us will be enjoying season 3 and the momentum from season 2 while you're bitching.

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again someone trying to explain why showing things out of order is a good idea... the big thing is if they were going to play season 3 for the people that already saw seasons 1&2 then they never should have replayed season 1 to get new viewers interested..hell if they insist on skipping a season and wanted to refresh peoples memory or show something from SGA then they should have skipped season1 and started with season 2 then 3 at least then it would have made some kind of sence ..missing the beggining would suck but it's not as bad as missing the middle..and then people would have been able to make a informed decision as to wether or not to watch for the first time.

So...you would rather Space play the first two seasons once and once only, then...what? Not play any more Atlantis for a year or more until season 3 could be shown? Where's the "sense" in that? Season 3 would have popped up out of nowhere, some viewers wouldn't have seen the first two seasons, and at that point I'm sure the exact same group of you who are complaining about htis now would be complaining about the exact same thing - you wouldn't have seen the beginning OR the middle! I'm sure the intention was to loop through Space's available Atlantis episodes until the first chance they had to show season 3. That's what they did. Therefore, like I said, for the vast majority of Space viewers who have already seen the first two seasons, yes - this is a good idea. I'm sure the new viewers the show might have picked up during the repeat of season 1 have already figured out a new way to see season 2. You're just too bull-headed to see that.

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wow I can't belive you're still trying to convince people that it was a good idea to skip season 2..like I said before if they were only going to replay a single season then playing season 2 to lead into season 3 would have been better then playing season 1 (playing season 1&2 leading into season 3 would have been best) but obviously you are to bull headed to admit that they made a stupid decision so you argue without reading the entire point of a post and only quote parts that fit your argument.

And you obviously don't read responses at all, nor are you open minded enough to even consider another point of view. I understand now why no one else has responded to this thread; it's an exercise in futility.

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well I'll agree about the futility part since you and the people at space obviously have no idea what is going on..and I never said they should play it once and only once..what I said was if they are going to replay something they should replay ALL of it not just half of something to get new people hooked then leave them hanging, and if you read the earlier post I explained what I thought would have been a better way to do things either for everyone or just for those that have already seen seasons 1 and 2 but Space doesn't care and you don't seem to be able to understand the issues

AlannaSGC:

Okay, I know where you and other viewers like you are coming from, but really, the viewers who watched season 2 when it originally aired on Space (and please, don't call people who have enlightened you to the fact that season 2 was shown already "idiots" - surely they're only relaying the information they know to be true. They're not out to get you) have already waited over a year for season 3. Why should those viewers be forced to wait even longer just to satisfy the minority of Space viewers who haven't seen season 2 through some medium, be it Space's original broadcast, downloading, watching it on YouTube, or through the purchase of season 2 DVDs?

In Space's response to you, they didn't say - as far as I could see - that they were showing season 3 because "newer is better" - they've waited patiently for the rights to run season 3 and they deserve to show it. More power to them.

Not to sound heartless, but if you think the momentum from season 1 is going to run out for you, explore the other means of seeing season 2. The rest of us will be enjoying season 3 and the momentum from season 2 while you're bitching.

 

First, I knew SGA had shown a few seasons so I knew season 2 had already been shown. So you're seeing season 3 for the first time? I thought the new seasons were being shown in a different time slot and Sunday evening was a re-run of the whole series. Space didn't jump immediately to the newest season when they were showing SG-1. Why not? They showed 1 – 5 until 6 was available. They they showed 1 – 6. Then 7 was available and they showed 1 – 7, etc. They showed the entire series each time. If Space wanted to show season 1 again they should have found another time slot. One would show season 3 (and then repeat all 3 seasons) and the other season 1 and then 2 and then 3 and repeat.

Buying it on DVD is an option but expensive. What about season 3? You said new viewers will have figured out a way to see season 2. Explain to me how that would work. Let's say they knew season 3 was starting on the 20^th. I didn't know it, but if they knew about it a week before, they could run out and buy season 2 on dvd. OK now they have a week to see an entire season before season 3 starts, right? So that's what you think people did? They watched season 2 between the 13^th and 20^th? 4 episodes a day should do it. Or are you saying they can watch season 3 now and season 2 later or both seasons simultaneously? I don't see any another alternatives, but I'm sure you have one. Enlighten me.

 

Okay, let's handle this jumble a piece at a time:

locutus0985:

First, I knew SGA had shown a few seasons so I knew season 2 had already been shown. So you're seeing season 3 for the first time?

No, I've already seen season 3 - I have Skiffy.

locutus0985:

I thought the new seasons were being shown in a different time slot and Sunday evening was a re-run of the whole series. Space didn't jump immediately to the newest season when they were showing SG-1. Why not? They showed 1 – 5 until 6 was available. They they showed 1 – 6. Then 7 was available and they showed 1 – 7, etc. They showed the entire series each time. If Space wanted to show season 1 again they should have found another time slot. One would show season 3 (and then repeat all 3 seasons) and the other season 1 and then 2 and then 3 and repeat.

 I think I understand what you're saying here, but if I don't I'm sure you'll correct me: Space didn't "skip" seasons of SG-1 while they show them daily because by the time season 6, season 7, etc. could be shown in conjunction with seasons 1-5 they were already available in syndication. As far as I know, season 3 of Atlantis isn't in syndication on Skiffy or anywhere else at the moment. Yeah, maybe it would be a good idea for Space to have a second time slot for Atlantis to run seasons 1 and 2 over and over and over, but that would get a little dull, no? I mean, you'd be seeing the start of the series every two or two and a half months. If Atlantis survives a few more seasons beyond its already approaching season 5, then maybe Space will carve out a new time slot for the new seasons like it does for SG-1 on Thursday nights - maybe once season 10 of SG-1 is available for syndication and is in the regular Monday-Friday rotation then the Thursday at 10pm EST slot can be handed over to season three of Atlantis, and Sundays can be a season 1 and 2 bonanza.

locutus0985:

Buying it on DVD is an option but expensive.

Which is why I also added in looking at YouTube, where there is I think the majority of season 2 uploaded there already - you can watch it for free - likewise with torrent downloading. I know, it's "illegal", but mininova.org is one of the best downloading sites - again, for free. You can watch the show from the comfort of your own PC/laptop/Mac/what have you.

locutus0985:

What about season 3?

See above. It's readily available at the aforementioned locations.

locutus0985:

You said new viewers will have figured out a way to see season 2. Explain to me how that would work.

Again, see above.

locutus0985:

Let's say they knew season 3 was starting on the 20^th. I didn't know it, but if they knew about it a week before, they could run out and buy season 2 on dvd. OK now they have a week to see an entire season before season 3 starts, right? So that's what you think people did? They watched season 2 between the 13^th and 20^th? 4 episodes a day should do it.

Uhh, no, that's not what I think people did, because I don't expect people to be psychic and know when a station is going to start running relatively new seasons of television shows. Just for the sake of crazed fans, however, 4 episodes a day is doable - if you wanted it to be. And now, I'm not saying you're not a crazed fan if you DON'T do that, I'm not saying that you SHOULD do that, I'm just saying, hypothetically, it's possible TO do that.

locutus0985:

Or are you saying they can watch season 3 now and season 2 later or both seasons simultaneously? I don't see any another alternatives, but I'm sure you have one. Enlighten me.

Well, being the loyal Space viewer (and obviously passionate SGA fan) you obviously are, over the last three years of watching Atlantis and waiting for it on Space, a viewer such as yourself might be able to foresee (and no, I'm not retracting my previous statement in which I stated I do not expect viewers to be psychic; there is a thing called common sense) the fact that Space is going to be a year behind Skiffy and The Movie Network (another option there, by the way - also free...if you've already paid for it on your cable package). Perhaps in that year one is waiting for the new season to appear on Space, one could merely remove the middleman (i.e. Space) and use one of the readily available alternatives to watching the newest season which I have described twice now, and is not limited to purchasing the admittedly somewhat pricey DVD sets. That way, you can be a happy little clam watching the show (with commercials!) when it at long last comes to Space.

Now Space I will reiterate, though I probably shouldn't because then I'm just "one of those people" trying to sell Space's hidden agenda, has foreseen this frustration in her loyal and passionate viewers, and despite the pickle they're left in by having to wait for the rights to run a new season after TMN has finished with it, they try to bus it out to us (those loyal and passionate viewers) as quickly as they can. If her loyal and passionate viewers a few moons ago missed the numerous previews (and the weekly showing) of season 2 the first time they were able to show it, there's really nothing they can do about it. The same thing would have happened last year when season 2 came out - if of course, there had been more than one season to show or skip before they actually GOT to season 2.

So who knows? Muddle through season 3, lost, dazed and confused, refusing to seek out the alternate (an free!) avenues I've suggested for seeing season 2, and maybe next year before season 4 comes out you can see season 2 and refresh yourself with another run-through season 3...unless of course, it's "skipped" that second time 'round in order to bring the loyal and passionate viewers the long-awaited season 4.

In any case, I'm sure we'll see you next January to discuss what you're feeling about it then.

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OK here is my toonies worth. While I watch SG-1 and have seen most SGA Season 1 and a portion of Season 2 I am thankful they do have Season 3.  I am not working so I cannot afford to buy the Season DVDs or purchase the cable tier that includes the movie networks.  While I have a pretty good cpu it does not have what is required to download episodes legal or not even if I was for thet.  If you want to download fine but thats not my cup of tea.  Sure in someways I am lost for Season 3 but I do not think Space purposely did not show Season 2 for a second time.  When they announced they would be geting Season 3 they never did give a specific start time and like I had mentioned before perhaps they had hoped to show both before their first showings of Season 3 episodes but perhaps with the CTV purchase or something else they were able to start earlier then they hope.  With that would you think it would of made sense for them to stop showing Season 1.  Sure they introduced new characters in Season 2 but I am glad they showed Season 1 cause for characters that have been part and are still part of the cast since the begining you could follow after all if they had forgone reairing Season 1 any new viewers would not know any background of regular characters since they would have nothing to compare them to.  Some mighht upon seeing Season 2 and some of Season 3 might ask them is this character like this because of the events of Season 2 or have they always been like that but upon seeing one you see them at the begining and in Season 3 see how they are there and maybe in some cases be able to figure out how they evolved after all what regular character on a tv show goes through a evolution of sorts in each season but if you have no first step there is nothing to compare it with.  Finally as mentioned before I am sure they did not do this purposely and while some people might be displeased with what happenned there are some who are hapy and we all know you cannot please everyone all the time.  Lets just hope sometime before Season 3 ends that Season 2 will be shown again for any who missed any or all of it and maybe even show Season 1 so they can have a complete story.

 

 

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I'd say it's become obvious to everyone that Space doesn't care how bad they screwed up or how angry they've made anyone, all I can say is I can't wait until the CRTC gets a brain and allows the Sci-Fi channel to brodcast in Canada, I'd say Space will be out of bussiness within weeks of the scifi channel becomming avalible since the only reason they are around now is because they have a monopoly on science fiction fans wich allows them to screw with us all they want knowing that we have no where else to go but once Sci-fi channel comes here and everyone has a choice I'll be happy to watch Space go under :)