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I see that TW is coming to Space on August 8th, awesome!  However, I'm curious if anyone knows why they're starting with the second series and not the first?  It would be helpful to people who haven't seen it all to start from the beginning and not just from series 2 when it seemed like everyone jumped on board with it.  It was a great show from the first episode!  I'd like to see the whole thing again from the beginning, personally.

There are two things.  One is the CBC probably has the rights to season 1.

Then, no matter what they do, if they show season 1, all of the people who have seen it will be upset and want season 2   They won't want the delay. 

They went with appeasing those who have season 1 because in the long run it is probably the better option.

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The owls are not what they seem.

I am actually OK with Space starting with Series 2 of Torchwood.   Although I believe WHO is correct, and CBC has the rights to Series 1.    I thought Series 2 was an improvement over the first one - the writing, characterization, continuity and storytelling was more focused.

I am looking forward to seeing Captain Jack again on August 8th.      (Especially that first episode.... Hawt!  *ahem* )

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Absolutely great that SPACE is airing "Torchwood" Season Two.

The one gripe I have is that SPACE is only giving the show one airing each week.  Probably not a major issue on most Fridays, but on August 8th, "Torchwood" is running directly opposite taped coverage of flag-waving athletes wandering through smog (ie. Olympic opening ceremonies, which, despite the smog, will probably steamroller everything else in the ratings).  A good idea would have been to rebroadcast the episodes either later in the evening or later in the weekend.  As a result, a lot of people may actually miss the first two episodes.  For a network that already shows the same episodes of certain shows three or four times a day, and one that can afford to air new "Battlestar Galactica" episodes two or three times during the same weekend, "Torchwood" is probably deserving of an encore time slot of its own.

Anywho, hope you enjoy the show.  :)

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"Please let me know if there's some other way we can screw up tonight."
- William Shatner, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"

True for you FanOfGrot. Not Spaces's better ideas. Lucky I've already seen all 13 episodes the latter more so.

Here's the line up Torchwood - Season Two :

1: "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang"
2: "Sleeper"
3: "To the Last Man"
4: "Meat"
5: "Adam"
6: "Reset"
7: "Dead Man Walking"
8: "A Day in the Death"
9: "Something Borrowed"
10: "From Out of the Rain"
11: "Adrift"
12: "Fragments"
13: "Exit Wounds"

Bummer, Season three has ONLY 5 episodes long, and it's ONE, one WHOLE story an arc if you would that tells just one adventure. They start filming THAT in August.
And it'll be broadcast in old Blighty in 2009 over one week (on BBC One) as "event television" early 2009.

So God alone KNOWS when ever.  IF ever SPACE'll get it after CBC  is done with it.

All I can say is thank heavens for Torrents, because either the US TV stations or Canadian and one's as BAD as the other really, with their bloody godawful feckin adds drive me nuts...and I'm bad enough as I am, without  quite bein' committed yet.!

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steelclaw32
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet: Act 1, Scene 5.

That's rich.

Somebody who is extoling torrent, and clearly is not going to watch SPACE's airing of torchwood complaining about our broadcast schedule.

Watta larf...

m.

Seriously though, if you can air "Tia Carrere 1 Hour Action / Adventure" ad infinitum / nauseam, shouldn't a show that is actually, you know, good be aired more than once a week?

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hemulator

Not really Mask, as I clearly AM going to watch it on SPACE, it's just being here for nine years it's the fecking adds that annoy the hell out of me thats all. I'm not complaining about the programme schedule at all, I did say it WASN'T SPACE'S better ideas, there is a difference .

What buggers me is why you lot emulate the bloody Yanks with you bloody adds, your Canadian for God's sake, stop trying ape them it's embarrassing to see, and I'm a Brit.

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steelclaw32
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet: Act 1, Scene 5.

hemulator-

You are on dangerous ground. Are you saying we should ignore the viewers who suport their shows for shows that do not have an audience??

That seems very elitist to me.

I watched Relic Hunter when we initially aired it. It wasn't my 'cup of tea'. I do watch Torchwood more than once, but we know that thanks to those who download Torchwood that the show will do well once, and even that initial airing does not do as well as it should.

The internet is changing everything, and perhaps not the way you envisioned.

m.

If you want tv without ads try tvo or pbs.

The rest of us have ads to support getting expensive shows like BSG and Torchwood...

And following the Yank model has nothing to do with it, it's a global busness tv practice.

It's just a fact.

It does mean we will lose viewers to tivo and downloading...

m.

Elitist?  Pardon me for having some taste and expressing opinion.

Without any solid numbers I cannot see how a show who's original concept was "lets get Tia Carrere on TV", hasn't been "new" for 6 years and whose episodes get played 12 times each a year is in any way worthy of support. 

I figured a new show with an original concept that fits snugly in the middle of Space's genre content mandate was worthy of at least a next day repeat.  Or has CTV rewritten that mandate too?

I'm not looking for any confrontation with you by any means.  The fact that you, yourself, answered the very first post I asked on the old board was what made me think Space was more than just a "bottom line" broadcaster.  I know you're not in programming and I appreciate that you care enough to post on these boards and explain things to jerks like me.

But I'm also not joking in the slightest when I say Tia Carrere 1 Hour Action / Adventure invokes my gag reflex.  I've started changing the channel during commercial breaks thanks to the prolific advertisements for a show that already eats up 3 timeslots.  Sometimes I don't change it back.

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hemulator

At times old son, I do LOOK at Knowledge Network, damn good it is too, I also look sometimes at PBS, as for your remark..."And following the Yank model has nothing to do with it, it's a global busness tv practice.It's just a fact." is puerile, because ALL of SPACES'S progs ARE American, apart from (VERY few) "home produced" ones and their dire.

For so-called half hour show (read 20/25 minutes actually) you've TWO, sometimes 3 bloody add breaks feckin madness boy, if you must have an add, O N E add break is QUITE sufficient we do back home on ITV for a 1/2 show.

The reason TOO many adds means trying to get into the plot are story line, is bollixed, if you've video recorder, fine, some people haven't, I have, so if a prog is very good and I'm following any particular TV series I can edit out the adds,  'sides is saves an awful lot of space on the tape. but for you to tell me it's a fact and global business tv practice, read AMERICAN business TV practise, and you Canadians ARE aping, I don't know HOW many times I put Canadians in their places when they come out with the crap you just said, and THEY knew I was right...as I am NOW.

For 60 minutes read 42/3 and rare 45minutes for a "60" minutes you can have 2 or three adds that's enough, not the shower you DO have.

And you wonder WHY people are torrenting down are going to tvo.  

 

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steelclaw32
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet: Act 1, Scene 5.

Hemu,  your not elitist and even if your were, what about it.?  expressing ones opinion nawt wrong, it's the other fella-me-lad who's patently a feckin "yes man" not a good thing that, they always wind up worst, eventually.

And your posting IS a sound one, and is perfectly valid one as well, only himself wont agree with either what you say or I say. that's his problem, poor sod...not.

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steelclaw32
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet: Act 1, Scene 5.

hemulator wrote- I know you're not in programming and I appreciate that you care enough to post on these boards and explain things to jerks like me.

But I'm also not joking in the slightest when I say Tia Carrere 1 Hour Action / Adventure invokes my gag reflex.  I've started changing the channel during commercial breaks thanks to the prolific advertisements for a show that already eats up 3 timeslots.  Sometimes I don't change it back.

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I don't think you a jerk. And you have every right to express yourself on the board- in fact I encourage that.

Clearly Relic Hunter is not a show you like, and that's fine too. Please- don't watch it. Really. In fact don't watch any show you don't like, and that we way they will leave the schedule like Babylon 5, Buffy, The X-Files, and Angel. All great shows (IMHO) but shows that people stopped watching.

Relic Hunter, (along with some other shows on this network) are not shows I chose to watch, but get lots of eyeballs, so they remain on the schedule.

What I wanted to point out is that the loyal VIEWERS have a say on SPACE based on what they watch, and it is dangerous to second guess them.

m.

 

mask!:

I don't think you a jerk. And you have every right to express yourself on the board- in fact I encourage that.

Clearly Relic Hunter is not a show you like, and that's fine too. Please- don't watch it. Really. In fact don't watch any show you don't like, and that we way they will leave the schedule like Babylon 5, Buffy, The X-Files, and Angel. All great shows (IMHO) but shows that people stopped watching.

Relic Hunter, (along with some other shows on this network) are not shows I chose to watch, but get lots of eyeballs, so they remain on the schedule.

What I wanted to point out is that the loyal VIEWERS have a say on SPACE based on what they watch, and it is dangerous to second guess them.

m.
 

Funny 'cause I think of myself as a jerk. 

 

 Now the bolded part of the quote is where I think the misunderstanding comes from.  I do not second guess loyal viewers at all, I second guess the methodology behind how loyal viewers is determined.  More so when it comes to specialty channels like Space.

 Pulled from my ass example:  Show X (mainstream pulp)has 500,000 viewers, show Y (specialty pulp)has 500,000 viewers.  Those groups have some overlap but limited ratings input.  Should the overlap not include any "Neilson Families" then show Y with the same amount of eyeballs seems to get none.

I know, I know, 500,000 isn't many eyeballs but I did say it came from my backside.

 

I just want to add that I wrote letters and lobbied the local cable operator, Fundy Cable at the time, as they decided that Space wasn't going to be included in any of our packages when all the new channels appeared in '97.  It was around April of '98 before I ever got to see Space on my dial.

Do I count as a "loyal viewer?" 

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hemulator